"Trad is more thoughtful. Sport climbing is more physical and athletic. It's the only sport that I have stuck with. I like how it's social but not social also. I like how it's you on your own, figuring it out with just yourself."

"I got into climbing through a mate who said 'you would be good at climbing, you can come and belay for me!'"

"Why do you like climbing over other sports?"

"I don't think either of us like competition. I like sport but at my own pace. I don't know why but I don't want to get to the top of things, I like the bit in-between the most."

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